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> I guess someday when you're an old man, right before you close your eyes for the last time, you can imagine all that cool code that you wrote, and say what a great life you had. You were a hacker.

I'm also a researcher, and I like to think that the ideas I discover will outlast me and will make a difference.

Your implication is that those who think of software as a 'product' to be sold are making a difference, and those who think of creating software as its own reward are not. Maybe you are right. I just wish there was a place for those of us who appreciate the craft to hang out. Hacker News, for a long time, was that place for me.



>> I just wish there was a place for those of us who appreciate the craft to hang out. Hacker News, for a long time, was that place for me.

I still don't get what you're talking about, you like to look at and admire code like it's art? Can you give an example of code that gives you satisfaction to just look at it regardless what it does?


Since we're talking about Carmack in this thread.... Fabien Sanglard does some excellent reviews of code from ID... see for example:

http://fabiensanglard.net/doom3/

There's actually a movement that studies code in the way you'd examine a literary work (Critical Code Studies). Sure it's very abstract, but it can be fun, see for example this book:

http://10print.org/

You could also look at livecoding - they treat coding as a performance art. For example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSGKEy8vHqg


This: http://fabiensanglard.net/rayTracing_back_of_business_card/i... is a perfect example of what you're asking for (for me of course).




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