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I did the Chinese school thing 11 years ago.

The low end tech scene is quite vibrant but wages for competent dev's keeps going up. China really just isn't that poor anymore; though you still have plenty of kids who are poorly trained but willingly to work hard on the cheap.

Most foreigners outside of the few American tech companies are entrepreneurs and/or managers. I'm quite unusual as a researcher.



yeah, i was doing the high-school thing at that time.

and plenty of kids who -- with or without formal training -- are solid hackers.

there are def more foreign businessmen than 老外 devs, and not without some cause: i'd definitely get more compensation from a startup in the bay or bank in ny than i do at my current job.


I work at Microsoft, we have plenty of laowai devs and PMs, though quite a small percentage compared to local and even haigui (returnee) talent. As I rise in level, my pay is becoming more similar to Redmond, combine with the fact that research jobs are rare in general, its a fairly good job for me. But the pollution in Beijing...is the biggest problem for me right now.




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