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Speaking of myopics, are you including the large number of Indian nations that the US conquered and stole the land of - sometimes even signing a treaty that they later ignored? Or the huge swathes of Mexico they annexed? The bits of Spain they nicked? All the puppet governments installed?

That slavery in Russia was abolished 50 years before the US even existed - and even then that was only indentured servant-type slaves, as mass-agricultural slaves were banned 50 years before that?

I don't agree that Russia is less oppressive than the US, but you are cherry-picking your moments in history.

EDIT: forgot to mention the modern-day economy of benefitting greatly from illegal alien workers while ostracising them. And the immense incarceration rate, which is almost 50% higher than Russia's (which is also really high)



As I said in my reply to veidr[1] I am indeed aware of all that. One doesn't have to be blind to the massive abuses that the US has committed to still come out in its favour regarding a comparison to Russia.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6178285


One doesn't have to be blind to the massive abuses that the US has committed to still come out in its favour regarding a comparison to Russia.

One wonders why you cherry-picked then, instead of presenting a more balanced view.


I didn't expect my argument to be taken in such bad faith.


You pointed to a 20-year highlight period of US history as being representative, and handwaved away criticisms as 'I'm aware of all that'. As it stood, your presentation of US history was extremely one-eyed and selective, and then you had the gall to call the rest of this community myopic. Your argument was presented in bad faith.




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