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> It's now possible for people to buy affordable CNCs, laser cutters and UV printers.

And for the most part they just aren't

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They just aren't affordable or they just aren't buying them?

Either way, I suppose the answer is relative and subjective and Bambu Lab would not agree with you.


People just aren't buying them. They're about as affordable as any other hobby AFAIK

I don't know why you believe this, but it's not even remotely accurate.

I didn't want to argue with you, so I did some research.

The global 3D printer market grew from USD$24B in 2024 to $30B in 2025. It's estimated to grow 24% y/y for the next decade: https://www.marketdataforecast.com/market-reports/3d-printer...

If you Google it, this is generally matched by 5-6 different research companies.

Laser cutters are a USD$7B global market today, and also expected to grow around ~8% y/y into the next decade: https://www.marketsandmarkets.com/Market-Reports/Laser-Cutti...

A huge number of YouTube channel creators I subscribe to have received Carvera CNC mills over the past few months. Anecdotal but striking. It seems like everyone who left LTT to go solo has a CNC now, even if they usually review graphics cards.

Opulo, the makers of the Lumen PnP cannot achieve less than a 1 month lead time, seemingly no matter how many people they hire or how much factory space they acquire. And that's a pretty niche device, relatively speaking.

In conclusion, you're wrong.


No, you did a great job arguing my point: it's a market in the tens of billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of units, so somewhere between saltwater aquaria and golf

I think you’ve done a good job disproving your point that no one is buying them. Golf is a very popular hobby.

The point of this thread: the maker movement isn’t dead simply because most people don’t care about CNC machines. In reality, there are loads of makers & people who love tinkering and building things for themselves, it’s easier than ever to do so (and to build very non-trivial products for yourself), and more and more people are able to get into this.

If the maker movement was actually dead, we wouldn’t be seeing an explosion of powerful, easy-to-use manufacturing tools available at lower & lower price points.

I guess your point is that it’s not exactly mainstream, not that no one is buying them. Which is true, but who cares.


Also, there is a massive tropical aquarium store in a random strip mall a few blocks from my house. It takes up like three units.

I don't know why I let myself get triggered by some rando who has convinced himself that just because he doesn't do something it must not be popular, but here I am.


Taylor Swift is very popular, therefore no one listens to anything but pop music. It's a very low effort argument.

Obviously such a pursuit is going to never be something 1/2 of people do, you need:

- space

- ambition

- aptitude

- money

- tolerance for huge amounts of frustration

- some ability and openness to learn rapidly

- enough time to devote to it

- a space to allow noisy things to run for hours

- the ability to acquire these things in your country

Those aspects filter out a great percentage of the population, of course this will never be "mainstream". VR goggles aren't mainstream, why would you expect someone wanting to make their own CNC cabinets (or whathaveyou) to be moreso?


I really appreciate and enjoy the perspectives that you've added to this conversation; thank you.

I will admit that as a whole, this thread has made me super sad even while I'm confident pg would say that most people revealing themselves to be uninspired pessimists can be seen as a major source of opportunity for hackers.

I just wish that so many people weren't so easy to slot into the matrix, if you know what I'm saying.


Yeah, I don't get why what I said bugged you so much either. This is downthread of people talking about the idea that was pretty current maybe 15 years ago that 3D printers were going to be like washing machines and everybody would just print whatever they needed at home. Instead, it's a somewhat niche hobby that never really broke out into widespread use.

You misunderstand what I said. I know why it bugs me - it's because your perspective is demonstrably wrong - and I'm sad that I still feel compelled to refute your lazy, cynical perspective.

I don't know why someone who thinks like you hangs out on Hacker News. Wouldn't you be more at home on Passive Consumer News? I'd suggest you go make that real, except... never mind.




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