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MP3 is still the standard lossy audio format. Plays on everything, patent-free. OK sound quality (some stuff falls apart even at 320 if you have golden ears).


Realistically, what modern device won't play OPUS files? According to xiph.Org[0] it's transparent at 120


It’s actually still a bit tedious on the Apple ecosystem. On the web (Safari) you have to wrap it in a WEBM or CAF container, and on iOS it’s similar. That’s a lossless process, but it’s still not the OPUS container


The next update to my player is going to support Opus. It would be nice if it was better supported by the OS though.

https://www.plastaq.com/minimoon


true, but the complexity is greatly reduced between a caf container and (since Safari 17.5) a webm encumbered opus: the provider can offer 1 webm file to all platforms.

Especially in podcasts where it's just voice the savings in storage and traffic are significant. My own listening preference is 32kbits opus at ~1/4th size of the original 128kbits mp3.


To me it seems OPUS is transparent at much lower than 120.

32 is more than enough for books/podcasts, 96 is more than enough for music. I doubt above-96 makes much sense for OPUS - I'd use FLAC if I needed better quality.


I was astounded by how iffy my ability to even ABX tracks at 96 kbps in Opus was. I can't imagine needing anything else for music listening, although obviously I keep FLAC copies around as backups.


I enjoy being able to use vintage computers and vintage portables too.




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