We don't actually like tech or hacking here. I'm not sure why it's called Hacker News anymore. Feels like this post is right up HN's alley, then I see a comment like theirs.
There are so many benefits to AI, that I've directly experienced in how it's transformed how I can interact with videos, books, and research/learning in general, and it feels like half the site is just "nuh-uh". It's like low-key gaslighting.
I think that's a very ungenerous reading of the parent comment.
Sure, LLMs are useful (I use them to digest/filter larger bodies of text myself, several times per day), I'm not denying that. But, if we had to remove one of the two aspects discussed in the article (and the comment), which one would be more valuable to the kid: the attention of their parent or having access to notebooklm? As someone with a hacker attitude (fwiw) I find less technical or dumb solutions to problems more interesting.
Like, no one is saying that the LLM wasn't useful here. Both can be true at the same time. What's interesting is how these two concepts relate.
I think their comment is very ungenerous of what this kind of thing provides in being able to engage in a dialogue about a particular thing. It can be insanely difficult to break things down for somebody unfamiliar to a particular topic especially if you yourself don't have copious amounts of knowledge and practice in it. I repeatedly see people fail to understand the benefit of something like this because they refuse to want to.
> which one would be more valuable to the kid: the attention of their parent or having access to notebooklm
Sorry, this is stupid. As a parent, you want to look for tools and methods to help teach the child new things. Something like this is insanely helpful and it isn't a question of "would you rather have a parent or would you rather have notebooklm". Nobody is suggesting we replace parents and nobody is going to give a child these choices. It's a complete misrepresentation of the situation and distracts from the benefits, as a teacher or as a parent, of having access to tools like this.
My god, it's frustrating having these idiotic conversations every time LLM comes up.
> But, if we had to remove one of the two aspects discussed in the article
This was never up for debate until that comment. It's stupid and unproductive.
So many times I see parents and teachers look for robot kits or books or courses or other types of kits (Arduino anybody?) to help children engage with new topics and learn new things. And people are always very supportive and helpful in these kinds of things, because it's a GOOD THING to want to help children.
But I never see somebody be like "but what's actually important here? The robot kit or the parent being there?" NOBODY ASKED UNTIL THEY DID. It wasn't up for fucking debate.
Why is it when it's LLM that suddenly this is so important to point out? Why don't I see that when somebody talks about how great it was to go through an Arduino kit with their kid?
There are so many benefits to AI, that I've directly experienced in how it's transformed how I can interact with videos, books, and research/learning in general, and it feels like half the site is just "nuh-uh". It's like low-key gaslighting.