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It was never above page 4 (position 90):

https://hnrankings.info/41651548/

This version of the thread is the first to have had any traction on the front page.

When the algorithm artificially stops a topic from surfacing to the front page, the article that finally makes it past the algorithm's suppression is not a duplicate, it's the canonical copy.



So what if it didn't make the front page. That doesn't mean ppl didn't see it. Doesn't mean ppl aren't commenting on it. Maybe it's just not that interesting. There was also a lot of other big news at the same time with Meta etc taking attention. And followed by the other OpenAI news with Mira. Again, the discussion is there.


You're seriously going to argue that OpenAI changing to a for profit wasn't interesting enough to rise above page 4 of Hacker News? Doesn't the existence of this second thread disprove that claim pretty thoroughly?

I'm pretty sure that what happened is that the Murati thread was id'd by the algorithm as the canonical OpenAI discussion, artificially suppressing the more interesting topic of the complete restructuring of the most important company in existence today.


The front page doesn't matter if lots of ppl are still seeing it. 300+ upvotes is plenty and the usual for a major news story in a week. It is in no way buried. Discussion can still be/should be merged. Then it'll have 1000 upvotes etc. Representing its true significance and not making us duplicate all of our discussion comments!


A lot of people get their tech news by looking at the front page of HN. An algorithm artificially stopping the day's most important news story from surfacing there, leading to the discussion only being found by people who actively go looking for that specific discussion because they learned about it elsewhere, is absolutely a big deal.

I'm just glad that the Murati story falling off the front page allowed this one a second chance.


A lot of people saw the story. Without searching. Maybe more by simply searching openAI. Traffic gets sent in from external feeds etc. It's not buried. But the conversation is all disjointed now. Merging the [dupe] only makes it better/stronger.


> A lot of people saw the story. Without searching.

Do you have a source for this? How did they find it if not on HN?

> Merging the [dupe] only makes it better/stronger.

Moving the ~50 comments from the other thread here makes a ton of sense. All I'm saying is that this is the canonical and the other is the dupe.




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