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> Car pooling.

> Electric bicycles

> Insulate your house better?

> Taking turns with neighbours to do grocery shopping or bringing kids to school.

> Try to repair stuff in stead of bying new.

> Drying clothes with renewable wind energy. (a hanging rack)

People do these things anyways with the right incentives, just to save time and money.

But we still need to get off of fossil fuels for transportation and electricity generation if we want to avoid the worst climate change scenarios.

The reality is that people really value convenience, and we have to find sustainable ways of delivering that. That might mean a great electric bus system, EVs, community thrift exchanges, etc



> Car pooling. I work from home and hate riding/coordinating with others so I’ll alway just go on my own.

> Electric bicycles

I only ride bicycles for exercise or as an activity but never to go somewhere. I’m no longer 12.

> Insulate your house better?

If the government wants to use my tax dollars for this instead of SNAP/TANF then I’m all for them paying for it but it’s not going to be me paying.

> Taking turns with neighbours to do grocery shopping or bringing kids to school.

See point #1

> Try to repair stuff in stead of bying new.

I do this where possible because I’m cheap but I doubt it is any kind of significant savings of energy.

> Drying clothes with renewable wind energy. (a hanging rack)

Now I’ve got clean clothes covered in dust and pollen. Thanks.


I understand your points. I'm sure those are valid for you. I'm thinking more about the whole picture. You say you work from home, that's already big influence.

My point in this discussion thread is, i saw 200 Amps at 240 V per household being mentioned, i want to show this should not be the norm or trend. Imo this way of thinking is not leading to an efficient system.

If you have an electric car, you probably don't need to charge it most of the times at the highest current. And when you do, you won't turn on all electric devices with high amperage.

The other examples are just examples, not everyone needs to apply them all. I advocate for the culture shift, the more-is-not-better mentality. This needs to go hand in hand with cleaner technologies and government policies.


I agree, but it needs to be a combination of change of infrastructure and people's habits. After all it is just culture and culture evolves,so let it evolve in the right direction. 200 amps to every household seems not to be the right direction.


As behind-the-meter demand management technology advances, and behind the meter storage becomes more affordable, we will be able to increasingly support high power use cases without needing 200A service drops at all. This is where we will end up: sipping power through a straw and storing it for short bursts of high-power usage.




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