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ElonJet (on Facebook since removed from Twitter) (facebook.com)
126 points by sroussey on Dec 14, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 31 comments


What a sad world we live it. My first time even looking at an ElonJet post on Facebook this morning and the first comment I see is:

> I can't wait to hear of his sudden death due to a plane crash. Now we're talking a merry fucking Christmas!

This, on a social media site billed to "bring us together", on a page whose goal seems to be publicly stalking an individual who I don't know personally but everyone here seems to hate him and revel in any possible hurt that can come to him.

I can already hear the, "well he's a douchebag and he deserves it." Sure, I guess. It's just that my last social interaction was getting together with my parents, siblings, neices, and nephews to celebrate Christmas and everything was so warm and bright and kind. So it's quite a stark change to walk onto the internet this morning and remember that it's a battleground of hate, criticism, and unkindness. I think I'll go somewhere else today.


>I can already hear the, "well he's a douchebag and he deserves it."

Careful with things like "I can already hear..." and "The same people who..." and "X people probably think...". You can easily find concrete examples of people behaving badly, but when you start to jump ahead of it to lament theoretical examples, that's how you cultivate images of imagined enemies in your head and start to contribute to the hate machine yourself.


I appreciate this advice.


Not "public stalking", you can't stalk a plane. It's just information about what his plane is doing, which is public information just like every other plane. If you wanted to stalk Elon Musk the person, you would just follow his social media accounts, he's on them constantly.


Why Facebook? It can't be _that_ much safer than Twitter. Surely he's got his own website, or could make one for the ElonJet bot.


Assuming it lasts for some time, it would however show to a wide audience that a page that isn't blocked on Facebook is on Twitter, revealing the real weight of Elon's brags about free speech. I avoid social media, including Facebook, like dead rats, but this could be a good move.


Because companies killed the ability to subscribe outside of their walled gardens when they killed off RSS. This was a strategy they executed and were successful.


Literally commenting from Unread RSS on an iPad, the app I use to consume all my news from a few dozen sources that range from HN to NY Times. It’s not quite as simple as it was, but it also wasn’t ever exactly ubiquitous.


Nobody has "killed off" RSS. It still exists - there are still plenty of RSS clients of all varieties, and many blogs/websites, including YouTube, provide RSS feeds.


Youtube hasn't killed off RSS yet but you have to go way out of your way to find feeds. They will kill it as soon as they can do it without causing too much of a stir, it's certainly Google's overall strategy to discontinue RSS.


> They will kill it as soon as they can do it without causing too much of a stir, it's certainly Google's overall strategy to discontinue RSS.

I've been hearing this for literally more than 5 years. Nothing was stopping them from removing it after they killed Reader, and they still haven't, a decade later.


Because that's where people are?


Yes, a self-hosted Mastodon instance would be the most obvious alternative to Twitter.


No, you need to be where your non-tech audience is.


Looks like the autor has a website, it's in FB profile.


elonjet.net which 302 redirects to https://grndcntrl.net/

No RSS feed or mailing list subscription option yet unfortunately.


The account is on Mastodon so append a .rss and viola https://mastodon.social/@elonjet.rss


chef kiss


I would love if this we're on Mastodon.



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Can you elaborate on this? Why is it doxxing? Maybe my non-native and limited English language skills don't help me with some of the terms used online.

You can actually track planes using a cheap SDR dongle, a homemade antenna and any cheap computer.

The data are transmitted openly for anyone to assist air traffic management, crash avoidance and search & rescue if need be.

How this is doxxing since we don't know the manifest of the passengers? Could be anyone.


Luckily Elon does not believe in remote work, so he is likely not in his jet at the time of the post.


It's publicly available information about a private jet that Elon Musk flies on.


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Is it really that confusing that some of the biggest stories in tech are being submitted to a tech news site, and that other members of the community might find those stories of interest and upvote them? I implore you to either downvote, or at the very least, not click on stories you are not interested in. I was not interested in many of the crypto stories the last few years, but I was able to navigate the open seas of HN, while only getting my dingy caught on some seaweed a few times.


We are in a sociocultural moment where politics, individualism, collective responsibility are all colliding in "tech". The modern media zeitgeist is becoming increasingly online.


Elon Musk didn't own Twitter in 2010. Hope that helps.


And 2010-era Elon was founding / organizing / running some of the most cutting edge companies on the planet which rightly earned him a lot of praise. That same person doing a leveraged buyout of a self-sustaining social media site in order to fire most of the staff and make it more sympathetic to his preferred political party isn't quite worthy of the same praise.


Should have called it ElonGate ^_^


Would you mind if I put a tracking device on your car? I don't need to know where you go, but free speech, right?

Nobody should have to experience being personally tracked. Doesn't matter what your net worth is. It is a fundamental privacy violation and can only lead to problems.


This isn't a new thing. This is not a bait and switch. He knew it before he bought the private jets. HE is not being personally tracked. The heavy metal tubes he purchased flying over our heads have to legally broadcast their location. He is free to use them, or any other transportation medium of his choosing. But each ones comes with its own set of laws.


Elon Musk doesn't have a tracking device on his car. It's also not a privacy violation, it's how planes work. Planes are tracked. The fact that he registered a trackable object in his name was his choice. If he was that worried about privacy his can just charter jets.




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