> Trolling means saying something you don't believe in to start a ruckus/annoy people/make a flame war.
No it doesn't; please don't make up word semantics to try to make people look wrong. It's childish and pointless.
A disruptor cannot be absolved of trolling by it being confirmed that they believe in their own statements; a good many trolls are invested in their message, not just in disruption activity.
> nobody stated that
The put-off person was relating experiences from elsewhere to which you have no access to be able to say that. But in fact, I think I saw very similar remarks in comments under this very HN submission.
Some people are put off by trollish OS/language/editor/hardware/whatever advocacy. And water is wet, and dogs bark.
> how some people are claiming its going to replace vim/nevoim and others by the virtue of its great LSP and tree sitter suppor
That literally means "the outdated shit you're using ain't gonna be here before long, now that we have this", which is trolling even by your definition that incorporates disbelief in one's own statements.
>> Trolling means saying something you don't believe in to start a ruckus/annoy people/make a flame war.
> No it doesn't; please don't make up word semantics to try to make people look wrong. It's childish and pointless.
OK, this conversation doesn't have a point anymore. I make up "word semantics"? What I described is the canonical definition of trolling. Don't believe me? Here are some third party one's:
Cambridge dictionary: the act of leaving an insulting message on the internet in order to annoy someone
Urban dictionary: Trolling – (verb), as it relates to internet, is the deliberate act, (by a Troll – noun or adjective), of making random unsolicited and/or controversial comments on various internet forums with the intent to provoke an emotional knee jerk reaction from unsuspecting readers to engage in a fight or argument
Merriam-Webster: to antagonize (others) online by deliberately posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content
In any case, nobody knowing what a troll is and hiw it's used would consider people saying "this editor as is, and with the aid of LSP/tree-sitter support it has, will gain adoption" fits any definition of a troll.
That's even if we consider people posting stuff they sincerely believe as "trolling". If the intention is not to mock/insult and get a reaction out of those reading the message, it's not trolling.
Those people are just optimistic for some new tech. That's a dime a dozen in HN and tech forums or blogs. At worse they're hyping it (like the Nth "X in Rust"). All of this has nothing to do with trolling
So, I don't know what bizarro definition you have. If you do have one, do share it.
No it doesn't; please don't make up word semantics to try to make people look wrong. It's childish and pointless.
A disruptor cannot be absolved of trolling by it being confirmed that they believe in their own statements; a good many trolls are invested in their message, not just in disruption activity.
> nobody stated that
The put-off person was relating experiences from elsewhere to which you have no access to be able to say that. But in fact, I think I saw very similar remarks in comments under this very HN submission.
Some people are put off by trollish OS/language/editor/hardware/whatever advocacy. And water is wet, and dogs bark.
> how some people are claiming its going to replace vim/nevoim and others by the virtue of its great LSP and tree sitter suppor
That literally means "the outdated shit you're using ain't gonna be here before long, now that we have this", which is trolling even by your definition that incorporates disbelief in one's own statements.