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I feel like I'm the only person left who actually likes working and being productive with other people. I actually like programming and solving problems with other people.

There's been a huge shift since COVID to embrace not working hard, but to me life isn't as interesting when you're spending 40 hours a week just kinda wasting your time, trying to get away with putting in the least amount of effort possible. Having a little pride in your work can be very healthy.



"Retire" doesn't need to mean "sit on your ass all day"; it can also mean "freedom to do whatever work I want, no matter the pay", "start my own business", "take a year off to be a stay-at-home parent", and things like that.


Working with people who care about their craft is definitely much more enjoyable.

"What should we work for?

Only this: proper understanding; unselfish action; truthful speech. A resolve to accept whatever happens as necessary." — Marcus Aurelius


Yes, you like it when you are lucky to end up with people you work well with, but it only lasts until that one guy leaves and that other guy starts. Now you don't like it anymore. Wouldn't it be kind of the same thing but just more flexible, if you could do the same group work programming for open source for example? It would be very similar work but now on your own terms.


Work and job are not the same thing.


what about working hard and also making lots of mon-e




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