Have you got a citation that Hamas is on a religious mission to "kill all non-muslims".
From what I have read and understood, it's primary focus is to resist the Zionists which repeatedly encroach on Palestinian land.
Imo, making a comparison to ISIS is a tad bit lazy given the historical buildup to the problems in Israel. Just because a bunch of guys have big beards and shout in Arabic doesn't really make them equivalent in their aims.
As was the military goal of the Roman empire 1000 years before that. There's a reason pacificare is alternately translated as "to pacify" and "to subdue", the Romans didn't make that distinction either.
> Have you got a citation that Hamas is on a religious mission to "kill all non-muslims".
Read their own literature, read Wikipedia, read any source on Hamas. This isn't a hidden agenda, this is their stated goal.
> it's primary focus is to resist the Zionists which repeatedly encroach on Palestinian land.
I addressed the issue of "Palestinian" in the previous comments. There are extreme Zionists and there are people like me who support the idea of a safe place for Jews even if we don't support the previous Israeli government- the current one is too new to have an opinion on. And we're Zionists too. I want to see peace and equality for all the people.
> Imo, making a comparison to ISIS is a tad bit lazy given the historical buildup to the problems in Israel. Just because a bunch of guys have big beards and shout in Arabic doesn't really make them equivalent in their aims.
It would be lazy if I were doing that, but I wasn't.
I was explaining their ideology, explaining why it's different than the PLO. As for have big beards- Jews have big beards too, and some of the Jews with big beards in my family speak Arabic as their native language, so what's your point?
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Do you know what the concept of Gentile[0]? It refers to a pretty clear distinction between a jew and non-jew.
Zionists have used this concept in the past to make a distinction between the "souls" of Jews and non-Jews. This has led to very discriminatory views towards minorities in Israel (just look at the polls/surveys for independent data).
This has led to a two-tier system in the minds of many Israelis, whereby they are the "chosen" people, and that Israel is their land, and their land only.
Now if you deny this to be case, explain why the treatment of Palestinians is so bad, that Israel blatantly violates international law to build settlements, and so on. I haven't seen any mass demonstrations in Israel against the government. Given Israel is a democracy, this must imply that a lot of people agree with this state of affairs, is it not?
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Well I think Jews learned the hard way they are different, so it makes sense to have a word for someone who isn't Jewish. The settlements are a controversial topic in Israel, a fact is all of Gaza's settlements were dismantled and besides a very vocal minority no one in Israel gave a damn.
" Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims. "Let the eyes of the cowards not fall asleep." "
I posted it above and was downvoted. This quote, and the rest of their charter is filled with crazy stuff.
You can deny it, but there is a severe problem with antisemitism among Hamas and the Palestinian population. Even in kids because they learn it in school.
Ignoring that you are being patronizing and everything you wrote above could be said about you, but the difference, is I am not feigning "objectivity" like you or pretending to be neutral. Also your out of context quote doesn't magically cancel mine. I didn't write Hamas's charter, and why you are defending it, is all too obvious.
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But... it's in the bible! John Hagee wants to see Armageddon! Never mind the fact that most modern Israelis (and all of their leaders) are of European rather than Semitic descent...
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From what I have read and understood, it's primary focus is to resist the Zionists which repeatedly encroach on Palestinian land.
Imo, making a comparison to ISIS is a tad bit lazy given the historical buildup to the problems in Israel. Just because a bunch of guys have big beards and shout in Arabic doesn't really make them equivalent in their aims.