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It would make sense to do the anti stalking notification after say 4 days. This would make stalking labor intensive since the stalker has to swap tags frequently. So if you leave one in someone's car or drop it in a bag, you'd have to steal it back and replace it. Also if the stalker is unable to track it down, the victim gets notified automatically which makes stalking with these much more dangerous for the stalker.

For a stolen item you'd have that much time to track it down.

They could even track if different non-owned tags track the same person to stop stalkers diligent enough to swap these frequently.

It's an impressively good balancing of usefulness and avoiding bad spillover effects.



Confirmed by John Gruber

> I talked to folks from Apple today about some of this. The timeout period for when an AirTag will play a sound if separated from its owner is currently three days — but that’s not baked into the AirTags themselves. It’s a server-side setting in the Find My network, so Apple can adjust it if real-world use suggests that three days is too long or too short.

> The “NFC-capable device” thing means Android phones.

https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/04/20/moren-fine-prin...


    It would make sense to do the anti stalking 
    notification after say 4 days
"Your privacy and safety are important to Apple. We won't let anybody use these devices to stalk you for more than 96 hours."

You haven't thought this through! Seriously, the use cases for 96 hours of tracking are frightening.

1. Meet victim in club/bus/supermarket/wherever

2. Drop AirTag in their bag/pocket/whatever.

3. Now you know where they live and/or work assuming they go to one of those places in the next 96 hours.


Seriously, the use cases for 96 hours of tracking are frightening.

Meet victim in club/bus/supermarket/wherever

I'm not an expert, but I don't think this is how stalking works in practice. People don't stalk random strangers they meet in the supermarket. They stalk former partners, and (more rarely) people they've developed an obsession about. That means the stalker has to worry about being recognized by the victim, and consequently will have fewer opportunities to plant a device and retrieve a device than you imagine.

Furthermore, while being tracked for up to 96 hours indeed is a frightening thought, the typical stalker's goal is to track their victim at all times. Having to plant and retrieve a device at least every four days, without being detected by the victim, makes for a very impractical way to achieve that goal.


    I'm not an expert, but I don't think this is how
    stalking works in practice. People don't stalk random 
    strangers they meet in the supermarket. They stalk
    former partners, and (more rarely) people they've
    developed an obsession about.
Well, yeah -- I agree 100% that this is existing predator behavior, and most crimes will continue to be committed by a person known to the victim.

However, if not properly safeguarded, this sort of tech clearly can enable some new types of bad behavior.

Ultimately I'm a technology optimist and we shouldn't reject new tech simply because it might be misused. However it's also true that even the most cursory glance at history shows us that just about any new technology is also used for nefarious purposes.


This I agree with. My contention was with what you first wrote, which made it seem like the 4 day limit was not meaningful. I think it makes all the difference for the reasons I laid out.


Seeing as you can literally give someone a USB cable that tracks them, I don't think AirTags are enabling anything particularly new: https://www.walmart.com/ip/OURLEEME-Car-GPS-Tracker-Vehicle-...


That USB cable doesn't work unless it's plugged into something that has power.


Yes? Offer someone a USB cable and you've given them a GPS tracker that will show their home location

But of course as I linked in another comment, trackers have been fit into anything and everything now. Hairbrushes, random trinkets like clocks, even a phone charging brick itself


Maybe so, but consider the optics...


Won't be long before magazines start offering tips on how to best avoid getting AirTagged.


that sounds like one of those issues everyone worries about but never happens.




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