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Democrats have challenged electors for dumb reasons before. It's their right. Get a grip.


They didn't tell millions of people that the election had been outright stolen. Not even in 2016 when it pretty much was.


It’s weird that you say no one said the the election has been stolen, yet you also say it pretty much was. Did you just wake up one morning and think maybe there was something askew with the election and go and do tons of investigative work on your own? Or did someone tell you that?

There’s lots to criticize Trump about, but what you wrote is wrong and not in a minor way.


2016 was stolen? by whom, the Russians?

Here's the thing: How can you expect any one to believe on the one hand that for four years we have had an illegitimate president who is simultaneously a Russian agent and Orange Hitler...

and yet tell me that 2020 was a perfectly run election?

Are you telling me that patriotic Americans across the country would not due their duty to remove an illegitimate President by any means necessary (including fraud)?

I'm not even saying 2020 was stolen, but the cognitive dissonance in saying 2020 was legit but 2016 was not is massive.


I don't think Russia hacked servers or anything like that. But the fact is that Russia made a very large and active effort to interfere in the US election, as laid out very clearly in the Senate report. It's not something we consider stealing in the ordinary sense, but that's only because it's significantly more sophisticated than what the MAGA mob is currently trying to do.

(The US has interfered in other countries' elections before, of course.)


> But the fact is that Russia made a very large and active effort to interfere in the US election, as laid out very clearly in the Senate report.

Yes, they engaged social media campaigns, although I don't think it was enough to influence the outcome of 2016.

But many people are convinced it was, and that believe that Trump has never been a legitimate president. Do you not think people would take steps to prevent an illegitimate president from winning re-election?


Those challenges weren't based on lies and charlatanry. Voter suppression is real and significant.


Are you prepared to offer the level of evidence to support your position that you expect of Trump supporters in proving their claims of voter fraud?




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