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1.Why I now, unfortunately, hate Hacker News..
871 points by sw007 on Aug 17, 2012 | 431 comments
2.I Have 50 Dollars (ihave50dollars.com)
647 points by thehodge on Aug 17, 2012 | 196 comments
3.Twitter to Client Developers: Drop Dead (daringfireball.net)
471 points by joshus on Aug 17, 2012 | 173 comments
4.Harvard cracks DNA storage, crams 700 terabytes of data into a single gram (extremetech.com)
346 points by evo_9 on Aug 17, 2012 | 129 comments
5.Vim and Vi Tips: Essential Vim and Vi Editor Skills, free on Amazon today only (amazon.com)
347 points by whalesalad on Aug 17, 2012 | 137 comments
6.How We Nearly Lost the Discovery Shuttle (waynehale.wordpress.com)
313 points by kibwen on Aug 17, 2012 | 61 comments
7.A Tor of the Dark Web (slifty.com)
310 points by slifty on Aug 17, 2012 | 204 comments
8.A Proposal To Improve Hacker News (sridattalabs.com)
304 points by sthatipamala on Aug 17, 2012 | 174 comments
9.Light Table reaches 0.1.0 (chris-granger.com)
297 points by Mariel on Aug 17, 2012 | 95 comments

It's a genuine problem and has been growing gradually worse for a while. I think the cause is simply growth. When a good community grows, it becomes worse in two ways: (a) more recent arrivals don't have as much of whatever quality distinguished the original members, and (b) the large size of the group makes people behave worse, because there is more anonymity in a larger group.

I've spent many hours over the past several years trying to understand and mitigate such problems. I've come up with a bunch of tweaks that worked, and I have hopes I'll be able to come up with more.

The idea I'm currently investigating, in case anyone is curious, is that votes rather than comments may be the easiest place to attack this problem. Although snarky comments themselves are the most obvious symptom, I suspect that voting is on average dumber than commenting, because it requires so much less work. So I'm going to try to see if it's possible to identify people who consistently upvote nasty comments and if so count their votes less.

11.Google Sues Apple, Seeks To Block iPhone, iPad & Mac Imports To U.S. (techcrunch.com)
233 points by kunle on Aug 17, 2012 | 207 comments
12.Airbnb Releases Infinity.js: A Javascript Library for Smoother Scrolling (airbnb.github.com)
198 points by reissbaker on Aug 17, 2012 | 95 comments

I wish you'd consider investing less time in technical countermeasures to dumbness (all of them are gameable, and the brand of dumbness you're fighting is not at all incompatible with an intuitive talent for that gamesmanship) and more time into just setting better community norms.

It is hard to imagine that the site guidelines you write years and years and years ago when this place was tiny are, intact and without change, the optimal guidelines for the site in 2012.

It's also the case that the things you say to guide the tone of the community, for better or worse, have a huge impact on how the community works.

If it should be a norm of HN that criticisms be kept constructive, and that the community should have a default position of supporting entrepreneurship (and, more generally, of supporting attempts to build anything) --- and, that should be a norm. --- why can't you just say so? Not in comments, buried in random threads, but in somewhere prominent on the site. Like, for instance, the guidelines. Which you need to update. Please.

14.Interpreting some of Twitter’s API changes (marco.org)
131 points by benatkin on Aug 17, 2012 | 56 comments
15.Perl/Linux, a Linux distribution where all programs are written in Perl (sourceforge.net)
134 points by colinprince on Aug 17, 2012 | 89 comments
16.The Emerging Revolution in Game Theory (technologyreview.com)
133 points by Anon84 on Aug 17, 2012 | 28 comments
17.Blessings: a pythonic answer to curses (python.org)
125 points by whit537 on Aug 17, 2012 | 23 comments
18.Firefox 3D view (developer.mozilla.org)
130 points by arunabh on Aug 17, 2012 | 40 comments
19.The Tata AirPod: a car that runs on compressed air w/150-200km range (stoweboyd.com)
126 points by masnick on Aug 17, 2012 | 77 comments
20.Private justice: How Hollywood money put a Brit behind bars (arstechnica.com)
125 points by ValentineC on Aug 17, 2012 | 53 comments
21.OnLive assets acquired by newly formed company (techcrunch.com)
119 points by il on Aug 17, 2012 | 75 comments
22.Initial revision of "git", the information manager from hell (github.com/git)
120 points by Sevein on Aug 17, 2012 | 67 comments
23.Restaurant offers a 5% discount if you eat without your phone on the table (cnn.com)
108 points by codegeek on Aug 17, 2012 | 97 comments
24.Can't Code? Learn Design. (learncodethehardway.org)
101 points by prajjwal on Aug 17, 2012 | 41 comments
25.At times not losing is as important as winning (steveblank.com)
98 points by pier0 on Aug 17, 2012 | 20 comments
26.Dear sw007 (raganwald.posterous.com)
98 points by raganwald on Aug 17, 2012 | 13 comments
27.Is MySQL becoming less open source? Test cases go internal now (mariadb.org)
93 points by bytebot on Aug 17, 2012 | 42 comments

Can't we all just act like adults and learn to deal with the negative comments

Actually I find that harsh comments are more common among children and noobs than adults and experts. A random fan watching a football game in a bar is far more likely to use harsh language about a player who misses a pass than another professional football player would.

What's happened here is itself evidence of this trend. The comments haven't gotten more negative because we were all a bunch of fools initially, and now the real experts have arrived; rather the opposite.

29.Google’s Dremel Makes Big Data Look Small (wired.com)
90 points by arunabh on Aug 17, 2012 | 48 comments
30.Elon Musk: Next Six Months Crucial to Tesla's future (technologyreview.com)
89 points by ca98am79 on Aug 17, 2012 | 80 comments

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