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>But hearing it come up -- and like this -- during an interview without solicitation just reeks of a toxic environment.

That was my thought. As I was reading this, the voice in my head said "Run! Run for the hills!"


You got a trophy for playing soccer in your childhood, right?


I think that there are a lot fewer people using that feature than you'd assume. Even lots of developer coworkers don't know about that ability, even fewer use it. So I can't imagine there are a lot of non-techie people out there doing john+adobe@gmail.com.


Not many, but in 360,000,000 there are probably a few.


I thought that too, but did you take a look at the last big dump that went public? I think it was the Target one. There were tons of that type of email used. I'm not sure about the percentage, certainly less than ten percent, but when you're talking such sheer volume that does not really matter very much.


Just to nitpick, the article says aggregates have been in SQL for 3 or 4 decades, but SQL wasn't an ANSI standard until 1986 (28 years ago, almost 3 decades.) I get that a language exists before it is standardized, so were aggregates in SQL in the 70s/ early 80s or is this just a hyperbolic statement?


COUNT() and SUM() are aggregates. I'd be pretty surprised if they, or equivalents, weren't in very early versions of SQL.


Around from the very start in one form or another.


100% this. I spent the first 12 years of my career not writing a single line of production JavaScript or CSS. I did it on the side for my own purposes, but never professionally. Why? I didn't want to. (I still don't really want to, but I like the job I'm at more than I like writing JUST server side code.)

So am I a front end developer? No. Will I be in a week, month, year? No. Why, I DON'T WANT TO BE. Can I use js to manipulate the DOM? Yes. Have I used Backbone.js and Angular and others? Yes. But I will only mention that technology in passing, to show "Hey look, I learn new things"


>I wonder what would happen if students would learn to build simple apps like that in school, instead of Excel?

If there is a school that is teaching people Excel, there is a problem with the school, and I'm not sure having easy frameworks solves that problem.


I think it goes with the territory. In a lot of senses, this guy gave up his personhood and became a corporation. The things we take for granted as individuals he puts before the board.

For example, he was able to convince them that he wanted to date the second girl, but that's not something any of us have likely had to deal with. The one exception being if you're still at home and you try to convince your parents you want to date a specific person.

In that context, the statement was a little chilling, but no more so (to me) than all the other decisions. The entire thing was chilling to me.


It's not that it hasn't been tried before.

I would guess it's similar to Atwood and his new Discourse platform. It looks nice, and developers & designers get excited about it. But one reason forum software hasn't been dramatically overhauled in the last 10-15 years is because it's working for most people.

I've sold plenty of junk on craigslist and I've bought a few things from there as well. I did the same thing with Freecycle and Cheapcycle when we lived in a town that did those. None of those were glamorous. In addition, the people I met there were from all walks of life.

I get why startups think CL is ugly and not useful, but go do a UI overhaul and sit back for the barrage of hate that is going to come from the core users.


I get nervous every time the federal gov't tries to mandate things in school. It always seems like something from either the 50 facts & fallacies of software development and/or the mythical man month. It's as if they realize things are screwed up so they try to slap some tape on the side and hope that fixes it.


Problem for me wasn't so much my manager. He did a good job, as far as he could. It was higher than him. But the last job I left was due to management.


I essentially did this throughout my college career. I don't think it was 5pm, though, more often 7pm. What set me off was getting so frustrated one night doing Calculus at 10pm. I tend to need 8+ hours of sleep per night, so by 10 I wasn't in the best mood for studying.

It got easier once I moved out of the dorms. I'd have most (if not all) of my work done by supper and finish up a little bit after. I studied Saturdays but not Sundays. That left my nights open for things like irc or setting Red Hat up on my machine.

I found I was a lot less stressed than my friends that played N64 all day and STARTED studying at 8pm.


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