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This is one of those things that just is not true, no matter what sort of evidence is presented, because actual humans can go walk outside their door and see it isn't.

Denmark has ranked as one of the happiest countries for years running, but, Dane here, we hoover up antidepressants like it was our breakfast. There are also deep cultural factors at play that make Danes more likely to mask that everything is fine when it isn't. We have an extremely high incidence of cheating on our partners, which, surprise, comes from a talent for deception, both toward self and others, and we are extremely emotionally avoidant, which results in our nationally very high rate of alcohol consumption and alcoholism.

These happiness indexes are a complete sham and don't observe the full spectrum that goes into how cultures present themselves versus lived reality.


> we hoover up antidepressants like it was our breakfast

Is somebody who uses antidepressants to successfully improve their mood not happy? The question is not "would you be happy if you were unmedicated?"


> If I gave you a great tasting cake made of boiled plastic would you still eat it?

How is that analogy in any way relevant?

The OpenClaw I control is extremely useful to me. I've never been more excited about technology than right now. If it's not for you, I really don't care. Go do something you enjoy. Turning it into Chicken Little doomerism is completely uncalled for.


This doomer attitude is something I have towards all software products these days, not just *claws.

People use dependencies willy-nilly, avoid proper auditing of LLM output; all that have disastrous consequences as we've seen the past few years. NPM supply chain attacks, prompt injection causing data exfil, etc.

I am simply saying it's imperative to UNDERSTAND the platform before making it a core part of your life. If wanting proper understanding of vibe coded projects with dependency hell is Chicken Little doomerism, oh well.



> . I've never been more excited about technology than right now. If it's not for you, I really don't care.

People are excited all the time with junk food, drugs and lots of silly easy dopamine hits.That doesn't mean it is good for them.


Better analogy is the clawcake has no new ingredients, we've been cooking with the same ones for years now, and its a shame people are such terrible bakers that they are so impressed.


"people" is doing a lot of work here. "people" is 99.9% of the world population that will be amazed and feel transformed when this hits scale. No one will care that the 0.1% are unimpressed and condescending about their increasingly-less-relevant expertise, and they won't care that you think it's made of simply carbon-based ingredients

(yes, I'm a biochemist-technologist, and I'm alluding to how the whole biosphere is made of stupid simple things, mostly the same shit in repeating patterns, but that the right combination of them, with the right transition moment and energetics, it changes the whole ecology)


Jesus ... did you not read what that OP wrote? Your response sounds like a breathless teenager. Stop and think.


I tried to set up Briar recently so my partner and I could text on the plane. We tried everything including manual exchange of the special links and QR code pairing and nothing worked. This was even while we still bad ground internet access.


I mean, unless you have a life-threatening emergency, it's the way the entire Danish healthcare system runs.


It's a bad study that can be disproven by anyone with any experience in strength training. The sample size is tiny. This is not good science by any measure.


Push costs pennies. It's an arbitrary restriction.


If you want to run your own push for pennies all you have to do is compile the client yourself.


I'm not going to recompile and redistribute a binary outside the Play Store.


Then your piggybacking on their infrastructure. I don't think they are unreasonable. "It can be done for pennies, but I won't" sort of implies that it does indeed take more than pennies worth of effort.


Then you pay for it. Nothing stops you


That's precisely my point. It's an arbitrary rent-seeking restriction.


Publishing an app in popular app stores, for an organization, requires several $100 in annual fees. That’s before any mobile app is even published.


At this point I think he's just trolling. Nobody can be this entitled


It's a yearly fee that amounts to a couple hundred dollars. That's about an hour of an engineer's salary. Zulip's customers make this less than a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a rounding error.


I own a Framework 13. It is one of the worst machines I've ever owned. I am not misunderstanding the value proposition. For the amount of money I paid I expect a machine that sleeps when I close the lid, does not run out of battery when sleeping in a day and a half, has decent battery life with mixed use (with the upgraded battery), has speakers that aren't actual garbage (with the upgraded speakers), and sells an expansion storage module marketed as capable to run an OS that actually runs an OS without randomly turning off because of power draw issues.

To top that all off, at one point (I don't know if he's still employed) Framework hired a dedicated Linux community person who gaslighted customers with actual issues telling them it was their fault.

If this was any other mainstream PC seller, people would rightfully dump on them all day long. Instead, we are treated to long apologia from people like yourself because of "the vision".


All of us in the EU could learn something from this judge's ruling and from the Constitution. The EU is on the fast-track to turning into a vast surveillance state the way things have been going (the increasing rise of arresting people who post mean things on the internet, Chat Control, age restrictions now rolling out in Denmark).

We love to regulate here in the EU and now that love of regulation is being weaponized against its own people.


After Chat Control and Germany's precedent for arresting meme-posters, Europe (yes UK included) is fast-tracked to become a totalitarian surveillance state. People should be terrified of how rapidly our civil liberties are being torn down.

I don't know what the answer is anymore as it seems all our democratic processes defending us from these erosions of our liberties have simply ceased to function.


I am ashamed to be Danish. Where are the mass protests of hundreds of thousands, the mass walkouts from our workplaces until our government at last respects our human dignity?

Our government has today turned the EU into a tool for total surveillance I don't know if there can be any return from. Our democratic processes have been abused, and our politicians shown to be nothing but craven, self-interested agents of control.


What about going out in front of your city hall with a poster saying no-chat-control?

You risk nothing, do you?


> What about going out in front of your city hall with a poster saying no-chat-control?

Unorganized, individual acts cannot change anything in the EU.

> You risk nothing, do you?

Given the legislative maze the EU has become, you can't be sure of that, but you surely gain nothing.

The conditions in Europe are quite specific, and in that environment, pan-EU legislation (except the customs union) should be optional for individual members, anything else can and will be used against the people.


Individual acts can actually have more resonance, if carried out with conviction and commitment (and if the cause is just).

See Greta Thunberg; she might not have managed to save the planet yet, but she sure got the attention of the world (of course, however big a problem chat control is, climate change is a much bigger issue)


Greta Thunberg achieved nothing useful in practice and if the best mascot for a movement is an autistic teenager it bodes poorly for that movement's chances.

She personally is perfectly successful, but in terms of political effectiveness people should model themselves off movements that achieved something.


To me it seems that she achieved a lot, compared to the rest of the activists.

The opposite forces were too strong in the end, but that doesn't mean that she didn't do a lot.

I'm not sure I see any problem with an autistic teenager as a "mascot"; I know how much a political area despises her, but if they treated a child like that, they would probably have done much worse with a normal adult.

But of course she's not enough, and expecting that she on her own will solve climate warming is delusional.

Which movements would you recommend as models?


> Which movements would you recommend as models?

Supporting NGOs like https://edri.org, https://fsfe.org.


> Which movements would you recommend as models?

If we're talking about the scale of reforming the EU, I'd say the basket of things to look at are things like the rise of capitalism, liberalism, major religions, spread of democracy, the Enlightenment. There are a lot of smaller examples of polities reforming too but those are some nice big ones. The smaller ones tend to be quieter, less flashy affairs where someone organises people together to try and make life better.

> I know how much a political area despises her, but if they treated a child like that, they would probably have done much worse with a normal adult.

I like to believe the adults are more likely to run the numbers and say "hang on, rolling back industrial society for no obvious reason is a terrible idea and I'm probably going to fail anyway with these stupid tactics - progress is hard to stop".


> I like to believe the adults are more likely to run the numbers and say "hang on, rolling back industrial society for no obvious reason is a terrible idea

I guess you're a climate change denier, there's little to discuss then



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> of course, however big a problem chat control is, climate change is a much bigger issue

Not quite "of course" in my opinion. An even bigger problem than (and a major cause of) climate change is how information flows to people. Or how it does not flow. Private conversations are part of that flow, I wouldn’t take that lightly.


It's hard to rank these problems; I consider both disinformation and chat control very big issues, and it's true that disinformation might be the main cause of climate change, but stopping chat control won't guarantee that we'll limit climate change as much as possible.

If for some weird reason I was forced to choose between stopping chat control and stopping climate change, I'd sure, regrettably, have to choose the latter...


>you surely gain nothing

one of the main reasons chat control keeps failing is because of protests all over Europe. without it, chat control may already be a thing


On one hand you have politicians whose job is to implement policy, on the other you have people who have to go out of their way to protest.

In the end politicians win, simply because regular people have other jobs.

You get initial push from protests, but in the end time works against them.

So no, protest are not the solution, just a delay.


and yet there are countless examples of the causes of protestors winning long-term victories

usually the people who choose not to protest for/against issues they care about do so for fear of police, fear of embarrassment, and/or laziness, not because they don't believe the countless sociological studies which have shown protest to be an effective form of political action


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