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Were you earning seven figures tho? That suppresses moral stances rather quickly I reckon

Perhaps. It should do the opposite though - you've likely got enough in the bank that you don't need to work a day in your life again.

There is a reason they call it 'fuck you money'

Frankly it’s a shitshow all around. The truth is that nobody gives a fuck about this. They have no moral qualms, just practical. And these are the people that should bring us the future. Man what a depressing scenario.

Doublespeak. War is peace.

Same here. And unfortunately I agree.

So, Google promotes the enshittification you decry by monopolizing the way you make money on the internet. Then also Google cripples everyone’s ad-dependent business by sucking out the info these websites provide and have paid people to research and publish. Nonetheless, Google good, websites bad.

>> I disagree with this approach because I've seen how much creativity and effort some people can put into slowly evolving a single elaborate prompt. AI can be used as another kind of brush. A prompt can be a masterpiece.

Absolute nonsense. A work of art is made of semantic stratification, experience, thought process. A prompt lacks all that. AI art can be a tool, but this sentence is a good reminder that on average it’s worth shit all.


Don't forget that the human artist spends hours training on art that predates them, and, in my opinion, that training predisposes the artist to unconsciously replicate elements of art they've trained on previously.

Stop treating humans like machines. Stop normalizing this dehumanizing nonsense.

Am I treating humans like machines or machines like they're human?

LLMs were created in our image. Hallucination, confabulation, sycophancy, psychopathy, learning, reasoning, and blackmail are all behaviours in LLMs that were first found in humans. All these behaviors are present in human writing and imagery captured in a training set. So to me, there's no surprise that LLMs exhibit these behaviors.

Do I think LLMs are sentient or sapient? I'm in the probably not camp. We don't have a good test for either, but they do illustrate the resistance to acknowledging any other being or creation as having the same capabilities as Homo sapiens.


Man it’s hard. This transhumanistic bullshit has fried many good brains

I am so baffled that someone with the stature of Jony Ive fell prey to scam Altman empty promises. I would have expected much more of him.

Seriously? Jony Ive is in his Cash In era. He long ago stopped being relevant, and was a huge drag on Apple for a decade. He’s perfectly happy to take billions for doing nothing, I’m sure.

What were the empty promises?

Altman put all of his attribute points on lying.

He's a Bard with all his points in Charisma. He doesn't do anything except sing fairy tale songs.

That's the prettier fantasy version. The other is that he is Gríma Wormtongue.


@dang do you care explaining? This looks really terrible.

That's a childish take that avoids reality. The tech you like is instrumental to terrible political decisions, whether you like it or not.

Great. Discuss those decisions elsewhere and let us discuss the technology.

You don't get it do you. You can't decouple the technology from the use that people that control you make of it.

You don't get it, do you. Technology is only political for brief periods. When introduced, they are apolitical, existing to solve a specific problem. They become political based on usage. Then, the technology either becomes obsolete or so ubiquitous as to make any politics largely irrelevant.

That said, I don't think technology should be either political or apolitical. If there's a need to use a technology to solve a political problem, then do so. Once done, one should just revert to the natural state of enjoying or abandoning the thing for what it is.


This is terrible. This is nerds having a tantrum because they can’t just play with their tech toys without having to behave like adults. That ship has sailed. Your nerdy toys are not just the pure intellectual pursuits, and puzzles, and enigmas devoid of effects on reality you would like them to be. If you don’t recognize that your penchant for solving software and hardware problems is used by the owner class to promote concentration of wealth and gain power, then you will stay forever a useful idiot to their cause. Demanding that tech discussion should stay apolitical nowadays only serves the purpose of the powerful billionaires that control you.

I research numeration systems. How exactly is my research used to “promote concentration of wealth and gain power”?

Didn’t the sugar industry spend decades funding research designed to push the blame for obesity onto fat and carbs instead of sugar? That is politics, and opposing it is ALSO politics.

The sad truth is you don’t get to choose what will be considered political and what won’t. Trying to be distanced from politics instead of engaged and aware just makes it easier for bad actors to manipulate you.


Do you research that for any big tech company? Are the system you research key to some AI development by Anthropic, OpenAI or similar? Etc. Also you are more of a scientist in this case so that applies to an extent. What we’re talking about here is people that would just want to discuss blockchain and bitcoin and request that those should stay apolitical

How do you pay for your food and home?

I’m still a student, so I’m partially supported by parents, but I get money for teaching.

lol the author literally described you:

> If you’re taking political action seriously, you cannot abide fence-sitters. Anybody not on your side is just a laggard enemy.


Cop out. Your contribution to big tech is not apolitical. Go be a monk if apolitical is what you want (and even then, that wouldn’t be fully apolitical). Men are political animals. If you say you want to be apolitical, you are already making a political choice, i.e. deferring your choices to established power. Doing the ostrich is a political choice.

lol the author literally described you:

> If you’re taking political action seriously, you cannot abide fence-sitters. Anybody not on your side is just a laggard enemy.


A fool said a foolish thing! Gottem!

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