You mean `exec claude "$@"`

1.0 and Zed still won't appear until I touch my mouse or press a key after it's been started...

Every KDE app I try (and the Plasma desktop) seems so good on paper, and they promise me the world! Then, wen I actually try them out, they always end up crashing or doing something weird. Like I cannot stand GIMP, so I've tried using Krita, but I don't think I've ever managed to finish something in it before it crashes. It's the same with Kdenlive.

Damn shame.

That's pretty weird; both Gimp and Krita (very different tools) were rock-solid to me. Speaking of KDEnlive, I experienced a few anomalies and crashes using the version from my distro; I switched to an AppImage version, and with it, everything Just Works™.

I suspect your crashes may also be related to dependencies, not some deficiencies of the application itself. Try a different build / AppImage / Flatpak, and see if you encounter the same problems.

I don’t use any KDE apps, but the Plasma desktop has been absolutely rock solid and super performant for me.

I do think that the idea that each toolkit has its own native app for each thing you might want to do with a computer is a recipe for a forest of half-maintained nearly-good apps. A lot of the KDE and GNOME app suites feel like checking boxes.

The entire KDE ecosystem is basically stuck on c++ I imagine the number of people volunteering to work on it in their free time isn’t exactly skyrocketing.

This happens to me when I brush off my mousepad too fast with my palm. It will also cause my wireless headset to "reboot".

I use wired headphones, and I'll get an electric discharge from my inner ear and through my earbuds when I get up from my chair.

It's not painful, but feels like pop rocks in my ear canal.

What would the in between be?

Use it for a month or two and decide it's not for you.

That is in between "use it for very short period of time" and "use it forever"

Gobolinux comes to mind.

If you don't mind a very limited set of software, the way tinycorelinux is setup can also allow multiple different tcz installed

These two Linux distros essentially allow two different versions of same software/libraries (glibc/python whatever) installed

(Gobolinux explicitly states that whereas I find it to be an unintended but elegant consequence for tinycorelinux but I recommend taking a look at Gobolinux)

Using a regular mutable system and Nix on top using Home Manager for example.

Using it for a year or so and then try another OS is my guess

I recommend changing the key to Super. As holding down Alt and clicking/dragging is often used by many applications and simply won't work then.

I just learned that you can use Super + Left Mouse to drag windows around and Super + Right Mouse to resize, due to this discussion. I have been using XFCE forever, mostly using hotkeys for tilling, and just did not know :D

Thanks !

Huh, I'm over 10 years in and didn't know about the rightclick-resize either. I really like it! Thanks!

Yes, it is best to use Meta/Windows key for system related actions (copy/paste, screenshot, application start, various windowing actions), and let Ctrl and Alt be used by the applications.

That is not XFCE itself, that is up to your theme. I'm on the Dracula theme and have about 16 pixels.

Are there any themes that allow changing window border size, title bar size, scrollbar width etc, like win 9x?

My scrollbar changes in Debian:

1. as root, edit /etc/environment and add: GTK_OVERLAY_SCROLLING=0

2. in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css add: .scrollbar.vertical slider, scrollbar.vertical slider {min-width: 10px;}

I've been using XFCE for a long time now. I often give GNOME and KDE Plasma a try, but I have to tweak GNOME so much to make it usable, and KDE Plasma keeps crashing and has weird issues (Steam friends list being delayed for example), which just got worse when they switched to Wayland. I really do feel like XFCE on x11 is the logical choice, it "just works" and every app runs well (Discord has broken hotkeys on Wayland), it's stable, and whenever people see my XFCE setup they think it's something like KDE Plasma because it looks so "good" (or different at least). It even works well even on my 32:9 aspect ratio monitor, which isn't something I can say about some other desktops.

I love and use xfce, but it “just works” for me only ~98%. Window snapping dimensions are oft still wrong, i get visual artifacts sometimes , etc. minor issues. With gnome i may not love everything about it, but i change nothing and it does “just work” closer to 99.9+%

Seems like YMMV

I'm not against Wayland, but I think Wayland is currently not good for the Linux ecosystem. I've had lots of friends try Linux, and they've had issues with Discord global keyboard shortcuts not working, and window positions not restoring at application start, and lots of other small issues, which add up in the end. But once they switched to X11, they've all been very happy.

Yup. I fully understand that X11 is a shitshow under the hood, but it works and Wayland frequently does not work. Screen recording, window positions, various multi-monitor and calibration issues, ...

On my laptop I use to write blog posts, that never ever gets plugged into a second screen? Sure, Wayland's great. On a computer that I expect normal people to be able to use without dumb problems? Hell no!

Comparing X11 and Wayland isn’t even correct because for a functional desktop you need Xwayland anyway. X11 never went away, we piled more code on top and now we have an eternal transitionary period and two ways of doing things.

I think Wayland is good for more technical users. Going from i3 to sway or bspwm to river feels like essentially nothing has changed. On the other hand, Gnome X11 to Wayland might be a bigger shock.

Unfortunately, Wayland inherently can't be like Pipewire, which instantly solved basically 90% of audio issues on Linux through its compatibility with Pulseaudio, while having (in my experience) zero drawbacks. If someone could make the equivalent of Pipewire for X11, that'd be nice. Probably far-fetched though.

It can absolutely be like that. Global keyboard shortcuts not working is a deliberate design choice in Wayland (as is non-foreground apps not having access to the clipboard).

Gnome is bringing global shortcuts AFAIK in the next stable version

Yeah but now everything's platform-specific. We'll have a KDE version, a Gnome version, a wlroots version, ...

I bet dollars-to-donuts it won't work with X11 apps

I can’t speak to the GNOME side of things, but I’ve been enjoying global shortcuts on KDE Wayland for years now. No issues to report whatsoever.

There's no reason it couldn't.

Yes there is; Xwayland won't support it.

So what? Xwayland doesn't support file selectors, but XDG has a portal that handles it fine.

"window positions not restoring at application start"

Well you see, you are actually just silly for wanting this or asking for this, because it's actually just a security flaw...or something. I will not elaborate further.

--geometry is an exploit that will end in your financial ruin. Spend your weekend figuring out which tiling manager and dbus commands will come close to approximating a replacement before giving up and realizing you can manually move windows for the rest of your life. Two plus two is five.

Thats not true. You are mistaking allowing the application itself to set window position, which obviously is a security flaw.

Is it sarcasm?

Spot on.

Which desktop environment do your friends use?

They started with Hyprland, GNOME or KDE Plasma. Most of them have ended up using Cinnamon, and the rest use XFCE.

hyprland is a fun spectacle, but takes insane effort to make remotely livable. Also any apparent shortcut (dotfiles) will do nasty damage to your install. Anyone hypr-curious should sandbox in an install they don't mind wiping.

I’m really curious about your experience, what distro you used hyprland on, what dotfiles did damage to your install etc.

I just installed hyprland yesterday and outside of having to switch back to i3 once to install what they had set for a terminal in their default config(kitty), I haven’t had to leave again.

Asahi and hyde. "Nasty damage" isn't irreparable, but it would be significant effort to enumerate every small touch that affects defaults from other DEs and restore them. There is no "restore all touched configs to default" afaik. Since my asahi install was a lightly used toy anyway I just reinstalled. My next attempt will be with a VM that I make image backups of.

What does hyprland offer over i3?

From my experience, nice decorations. I haven't gone further than getting a top bar set up and getting my normal shortcuts setup.

I'm sure I'm not getting everything everything I could out of it.